Sergei Shoigu: “Let the rescuers be always ready for anything, but not needed”

30 & nbsp; years ago, 27 & nbsp; December 1990 & nbsp; g., the Rescue Corps was created in the USSR. Now he is & nbsp; known as the Ministry of Emergencies, one of the & nbsp; 5 & nbsp; most powerful rescue services in the world. The most knowledgeable person about & nbsp; those difficult years & nbsp; & mdash; current Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu . & nbsp;

“ Do you & nbsp; remember how it all began ''

Sergey Osipov, AiF.ru: & nbsp; Sergey Kuzhugetovich, how was the Rescue Corps created, from which the Ministry of Emergencies & nbsp; later grew?

Sergey Shoigu : & nbsp; The very idea & nbsp; itself was born in the & nbsp; late 80s due to a huge number of accidents and & nbsp; disasters. By & nbsp; by that time, such serious events as Chernobyl, an earthquake in & nbsp; Armenia had already occurred in the Soviet Union. And & nbsp; the earthquake in & nbsp; Armenia showed that all the emergency services that existed at that time often operate separately, without a single management. And & nbsp; then & nbsp; in & nbsp; the end of 1990 & nbsp; & nbsp; in & nbsp; USSR, it was decided to create a kind of Commission, coordinating the actions of all services involved in the elimination of emergencies. These are firefighters, civil defense, mine rescuers and & nbsp; many, many others.

And & nbsp; 27 & nbsp; December 1990 & nbsp; g. a decision was made by the Supreme Council, which instructed the government to create a Rescue Corps. Then it was not & nbsp; it was assumed that it would be a single service covering all types of emergencies. No one has ever & nbsp; understood what it would be. Not & nbsp; was studied by the world experience. Although world practice shows that firefighting services, for example, in the & nbsp; total working time takes only 10%. Everything else & nbsp; & mdash; a wide variety of emergencies from & nbsp; utility accidents to & nbsp; work in & nbsp; road accidents.

At first, earthquakes flew at their own expense. Own aviation, disaster medicine, paramedics, mobile hospitals – all this appeared much later. & mdash; Sergei Shoigu

& mdash; & nbsp; And & nbsp; how did you & nbsp; get into & nbsp; & quot; Rescue Corps & quot ;?

& mdash; & nbsp; I & nbsp; at & nbsp; at that moment I worked as deputy chairman of the State Committee of the RSFSR for & nbsp; architecture and & nbsp; construction. I was frankly not interested in this position, so I had to write a statement to the then Prime Minister Ivan Stepanovich Silaev … To ask him to let me go back to & nbsp; Siberia, to engage in construction. It was March 1991 & nbsp; year. Ivan Stepanovich called me and & nbsp; says: “ You know, there is such an idea, to create a 'Rescue Corps'. How do you & nbsp; about & nbsp; this? True, & nbsp; & mdash; added the head of government, & nbsp; & mdash; I myself do not yet & nbsp; know what it is. But & nbsp; I think you will be interested. '' I didn't know anything about this activity either. So & nbsp; decided to give it a try.

We started with & nbsp; studying the world experience. In & nbsp; June 1991 & nbsp; g. together with & nbsp; representatives from & nbsp; all Union republics flew to the & nbsp; USA, to the & nbsp; Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA). Someone from & nbsp; colleagues took clothes home after this trip, and & nbsp; I & nbsp; & mdash; two huge bags with & nbsp; books about & nbsp; rescue techniques for & nbsp; all kinds of emergencies …

The first test of our strength was the work on the & nbsp; earthquake in & nbsp; Java, in & nbsp; South Ossetia, & nbsp; in & nbsp; 1991 & nbsp; g. We don't have anything yet, because it's only been two weeks since we were & nbsp; educated. And & nbsp; then in & nbsp; & quot; Rescue Corps & raquo; even my own accounting department was not & nbsp; So we flew there at our own expense. Own aviation, disaster medicine, paramedics, mobile hospitals & nbsp; & mdash; all this appeared much later.

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Minute of silence

& mdash; & nbsp; True, the & nbsp; first rescuers had three main tools: a shovel, a pickaxe and & nbsp; hoe ?

& mdash; & nbsp; Not & nbsp; three, but & nbsp; two. Pickaxe & nbsp; & mdash; this is one tool. Service arms of a civil defense soldier & nbsp; & mdash; pickaxe and & nbsp; shovel. And & nbsp; to work after earthquakes, you need jacks, hydraulic shears, cutters, hydraulic tools and & nbsp; other. All this we didn’t have at the time. It was necessary to buy everything abroad. Or do it yourself. We chose the second path. Thank God, there is always a huge number of enthusiasts in our country, who in the shortest possible time began to produce all the necessary tools and equipment here. As a result of the & nbsp; earthquake in & nbsp; Neftegorsk, we & nbsp; were already quite well equipped.

& mdash; & nbsp; Neftegorsk & nbsp; & mdash; catastrophic earthquake on & nbsp; Sakhalin in & nbsp; 1995 & nbsp; g. What do you remember most about it?

& mdash; & nbsp; We got there quickly enough. We promptly created the entire force grouping for the rescue operation. The operation itself has become unique. With the colossal destruction of infrastructure, a very large number of people were saved & nbsp; & mdash; I & nbsp; do not know other similar earthquakes. From there, by the way, came and & nbsp; such a thing as a “ minute of silence ''. Although the “ minute '' & nbsp; & mdash; the name is conditional. We made intervals of & nbsp; 15 & nbsp; minutes, during which we completely stopped the work of technicians and & nbsp; rescuers, in order to hear the voices of people under the rubble. There we used dogs for the first time. The Cynological Service of the Ministry of Emergency Situations was born exactly there, in & nbsp; Neftegorsk.

“ Sergei, what's going on? ''

& mdash; & nbsp; Your biography is closely intertwined with work lifeguard and & nbsp; peacekeeping. How did it happen? Still, stop armed conflicts & nbsp; & mdash; rather a military matter.

& mdash; & nbsp; Yes & nbsp; we & nbsp; were just convinced that all the conflicts that arose in & nbsp; Abkhazia, Transnistria, South Ossetia and & nbsp; Georgia, and & nbsp; later in & nbsp; Tajikistan & nbsp; & mdash; these are emergencies in which we are & nbsp; obligated to participate. South Ossetia, I remember, appeared completely unexpectedly. Upon learning that civilians were dying there, I & nbsp; prepared a note to the head of the Presidential Administration Sergei Filatov … In the morning he called me and & nbsp; said: “ Go urgently to the & nbsp; Security Council. '' And & nbsp; for & nbsp; lunch, we & nbsp; have already left for & nbsp; the conflict zone in & nbsp; South Ossetia and & nbsp; right there we prepared a proposal on & nbsp; the decision of the Security Council on the need to create a peacekeeping force. And & nbsp; to carry out all this the Security Council instructed us, and & nbsp; me personally. In & nbsp; South Ossetia, & nbsp; I had three deputies: Deputy Minister of Defense, Deputy Minister of Internal Affairs and & nbsp; Deputy Ministry of Security …

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After that, there was Abkhazia, simultaneously with & nbsp; Transnistria appeared, because the two of them walked in parallel, and & nbsp; my deputy flew there. Remember that & nbsp; time: we all have the hope that the Soviet Union will recover, that we will live as before, in & nbsp; friendship and & nbsp; peace. I remember forever when I was met by Hero of the Soviet Union Militon Varlamovich Kantaria along the & nbsp; road from & nbsp; Sukhumi to & nbsp; border with & nbsp; Georgia… He stopped and & nbsp; asks: “ Sergei, what's going on? Did I & nbsp; for this purpose defend the country and & nbsp; hoisted a banner over the Reichstag? ''

And & nbsp; like this, similar peacekeeping tasks later had to be performed & nbsp; outside the & nbsp; borders of the former USSR. We had Bosnia and & nbsp; Herzegovina, and & nbsp; an operation in & nbsp; Timor, there was Yemen, Congo, there was a rescue of the Dukhobors and & nbsp; Tolstoyans from & nbsp; Georgia and & nbsp; their & nbsp; evacuation here, the rescue of our Adygs from Sap & nbsp; There were many operations. In & nbsp; in total & nbsp; only abroad & nbsp; for & nbsp; my time & nbsp; at & nbsp; almost 460 different operations were carried out.

& mdash; & nbsp; And & nbsp; when, against the background of these peacekeeping operations, understanding came that a big country is disintegrating so that you can't glue it together? As with & nbsp; Ukraine: all the pots there are now broken …

& mdash; & nbsp; This understanding came in & nbsp; 1993, after the well-known events in & nbsp; Moscow. And & nbsp; about Ukraine today … In & nbsp; Ukraine, not & nbsp; we & nbsp; helped them, starting from & nbsp; 2000s, consistently beat their pots themselves, destroying the country. And & nbsp; thank God that under the leadership of our President & nbsp; in & nbsp; 2014 we managed to keep peace in & nbsp; Crimea. Because if & nbsp; all this public & nbsp; & mdash; Ukrainian neo-fascists, ultranationalists, extremists and & nbsp; mercenaries from & nbsp; European countries and & nbsp; USA & mdash; arrived then after committing a coup in & nbsp; Kiev, as they were going to, in & nbsp; Crimea, & nbsp; & mdash; I assure you, no one & nbsp; would seem a little & nbsp;. There would & nbsp; would be such a hearth that would not be extinguished by the whole world. We & nbsp; to & nbsp; still see the consequences of the attempts of these non-humans, together with & nbsp; Ukrainian troops, to establish their own order in the & nbsp; Donetsk and & nbsp; Luhansk regions.

Sergei Shoigu and Vladimir Putin. Photo: Press Service of the RF Ministry of Emergency Situations

Save the whole world

& mdash; & nbsp; In & nbsp; this year, and & nbsp; not & nbsp; for the first time, the military helped civilian firefighters to extinguish both Yakutia and & nbsp; other regions. Why is the military helping civilian rescuers?

& mdash; & nbsp; Our army helps the country. On the instructions of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, servicemen help our people who are in trouble. This is how & nbsp; should always be. For example, in & nbsp; 2010 & nbsp; when the peat bogs caught fire, it burned even more than now. Our country then flew to & nbsp; airplanes, helicopters, teams, detachments from & nbsp; 19 & nbsp; countries of the world.

After the liquidation of these fires, we wrote a report to the President, where & nbsp; I & nbsp; as Minister of Emergency Situations proposed that all state aviation should have means of extinguishing fires. Helicopters Mi-26, Ka-27, Mi-8, Il-76 aircraft must have pouring devices & nbsp; & mdash; all without exception. And & nbsp; in the & nbsp; Ministry of Defense in & nbsp; including. The President supported us, and & nbsp; funds were allocated for & nbsp;

Today, the & nbsp; Ministry of Defense has the largest number of “ transport workers '' IL-76 from & nbsp; all state aviation. We have the largest number of Mi-8 and Mi-26 helicopters. And & nbsp; all of them, in & nbsp; if necessary, are capable of extinguishing fires. Because the & nbsp; country must have sufficient resources that it may need in & nbsp; emergencies. I will add that in addition to aviation, our Armed Forces also have powerful engineering equipment. For example, a fencing machine & nbsp; & mdash; a tank without a tower, with & nbsp; a huge bulldozer knife. Recently, there were heavy snowfalls in the & nbsp; Jewish Autonomous Region, and & nbsp; these machines quickly came to & nbsp; help for clearing roads.

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& mdash; & nbsp; And & nbsp; on an & nbsp; international scale, does the same principle work?

& mdash; & nbsp; Unfortunately, we only have to dream about & nbsp; We & nbsp; for a long time on the line of the Ministry of Emergency Situations proposed to create coordination rescue centers in & nbsp; various regions of the world. Let's say for joint extinguishing of forest fires. Because no country & nbsp; is & nbsp; able to keep in reserve as many aircraft and & nbsp; people as you might suddenly need if there is a strong blaze.

In fact, we & nbsp; then, in the & nbsp; Ministry of Emergency Situations, & nbsp; already in & nbsp; practice came to & nbsp; this. In winter, our aviation & nbsp; & mdash; & nbsp; we had a big contract & nbsp; & mdash; worked in & nbsp; Australia. Because when & nbsp; we have winter, & nbsp; they have summer and & nbsp; fires.

And & nbsp; this approach could be implemented everywhere, if & nbsp; were not & nbsp; there were all sorts of barriers in the & nbsp; form of sanctions, bureaucracy. If & nbsp; and & nbsp; everyone had a desire to live in & nbsp; harmony and & nbsp; to help each other.

There were, after all, successful projects, for example, in the & nbsp; field of humanitarian demining. You can also recall & nbsp; the creation by the Russian Ministry of Emergency Situations of a joint humanitarian center in & nbsp; the Serbian city of Nis, which is operating up to & nbsp; today. By the way, the United States has been forcing Belgrade to close it for many years. The Ministry of Emergency Situations dealt with all this. And & nbsp; was very active. We & nbsp; won competitions in & nbsp; Bosnia and & nbsp; Herzegovina. We & nbsp; demined Afghanistan, the Salang pass, where the tunnel was being restored, when there was still the Northern Alliance. We did this in the & nbsp; Ministry of Emergency Situations.

A “team of creators” is working with me. These are people who want to build or do something as efficiently as possible, quickly, and, most importantly, for the good of our country. And if you just pull the strap, this is not creation. & mdash; Sergey Shoigu

Team of creators

& mdash; & nbsp; What character traits should a person have to be on your team?

& mdash; & nbsp; Once I called those who & nbsp; me a team of creators. These are people who want to build or do something as efficiently as possible, quickly, and most importantly, for the benefit of our country. Because if you & nbsp; just pull the strap, it is not & nbsp; creation. There are, of course, such professions where this is normal: come at & nbsp; 9.00, left at & nbsp; 18.00, and let the owner pay twice for processing. I don't & nbsp; want to offend, but & nbsp; the concept of “ creation '' & nbsp; is not suitable for & nbsp;.

Rescue and protect. The life of Sergei Shoigu in photographs

Sergei Shoigu was born in the small town of Chadan, Tuva Autonomous District. At 22, he graduated from the Krasnoyarsk Polytechnic Institute, after which he worked in various trusts until 1988. © RIA Novosti

In the late 80s, Shoigu took the post of second secretary of the Abakan State Center of the CPSU, and just a couple of years later he took the post of deputy chairman of the State Committee for Architecture and Construction. © RIA Novosti

In 1991, Sergei Shoigu became the chairman of the Russian Rescue Corps and the chairman of the State Committee for Emergency Situations – from that moment the stage of his career related to the Ministry of Emergencies began. © RIA Novosti

In 1993, Shoigu was promoted to major general without observing the order of assignment of military ranks – before, Sergei Kuzhugetovich had the rank of senior lieutenant in the reserve. © RIA Novosti

A year later, Sergei Shoigu was appointed Minister of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Elimination of Consequences of Natural Disasters – EMERCOM of Russia. After some time, Shoigu also became a member of the Russian Security Council. © RIA Novosti

Within the framework of one of the projects in 2007, under the patronage of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, an archaeological expedition was launched, the purpose of which was to restore the medieval monument of Por-Bazhin in Tuva. It is believed that this project became possible largely thanks to the personal initiative of Sergei Shoigu. In the photo: Sergei Shoigu with his wife. © RIA Novosti

Among other things, Sergei Shoigu is the president of the International Sports Federation of Firefighters and Rescuers. © Press Service of the Olympic Torch Relay

Shoigu left the post of the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations in 2012, then he set a record for the duration of a ministerial post in the post-Soviet period. © Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

In April 2012, Shoigu's candidacy was unanimously supported by the Moscow Regional Duma for the post of Governor of the Moscow Region, but after a few months Sergei Kuzhugetovich left this post for the post of Defense Minister, in which he replaced Anatoly Serdyukov. © RIA Novosti

Shoigu has many orders and awards of the Russian Federation, including “For Services to the Fatherland” II and III degrees, the title of Hero of Russia, and many others. Sergei and Irina Shoigu have two daughters – Julia (born 1977) and Ksenia (born 1991). © RIA Novosti

To rescue and protect. The life of Sergei Shoigu in photographs

Sergei Shoigu was born in the small town of Chadan, Tuva Autonomous District. At 22, he graduated from the Krasnoyarsk Polytechnic Institute, after which he worked in various trusts until 1988. © RIA Novosti

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In the late 80s, Shoigu took the post of second secretary of the Abakan State Center of the CPSU, and just a couple of years later he took the post of deputy chairman of the State Committee for Architecture and Construction. © RIA Novosti

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In 1991, Sergei Shoigu became the chairman of the Russian Rescue Corps and the chairman of the State Committee for Emergency Situations – from that moment the stage of his career related to the Ministry of Emergencies began. © RIA Novosti

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In 1993, Shoigu was promoted to major general without observing the order of assignment of military ranks – before, Sergei Kuzhugetovich had the rank of senior lieutenant in the reserve. © RIA Novosti

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A year later, Sergei Shoigu was appointed Minister of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Elimination of Consequences of Natural Disasters – EMERCOM of Russia. After some time, Shoigu also became a member of the Russian Security Council. © RIA Novosti

Within the framework of one of the projects in 2007, under the patronage of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, an archaeological expedition was launched, the purpose of which was to restore the medieval monument of Por-Bazhin in Tuva. It is believed that this project became possible largely thanks to the personal initiative of Sergei Shoigu. In the photo: Sergei Shoigu with his wife. © RIA Novosti

Among other things, Sergei Shoigu is the president of the International Sports Federation of Firefighters and Rescuers. © Press Service of the Olympic Torch Relay

Shoigu left the post of the head of the Ministry of Emergency Situations in 2012, then he set a record for the duration of a ministerial post in the post-Soviet period. © Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

In April 2012, Shoigu's candidacy was unanimously supported by the Moscow Regional Duma for the post of Governor of the Moscow Region, but after a few months Sergei Kuzhugetovich left this post for the post of Defense Minister, in which he replaced Anatoly Serdyukov. © RIA Novosti

Shoigu has many orders and awards of the Russian Federation, including “For Services to the Fatherland” II and III degrees, the title of Hero of Russia, and many others. Sergei and Irina Shoigu have two daughters – Julia (born 1977) and Ksenia (born 1991). © RIA Novosti

I remember how at the & nbsp; stage of the formation of the rescue service we were not paid a salary for almost half a year. The guys who then worked with & nbsp; just wrote statements and & nbsp; voluntarily went on & nbsp; vacation at & nbsp; their own expense. Formally being on & nbsp; vacation, they used their own money to buy tickets and & nbsp; went to the & nbsp; Emergency.

Or, for example, mine rescuers. One of the & nbsp; most dangerous and & nbsp; even heroic specialties. There are people who are incredibly dedicated to the job. They have mining experience and additional special training. We are ready to go down to the & nbsp; most dangerous places at & nbsp; great depths underground to save our comrades. All & nbsp; they, of course, receive a decent salary, but & nbsp; after all, they are not risking their lives & nbsp; because of this.

When you & nbsp; do not & nbsp; have any risk and & nbsp; receive your co-payments for & nbsp; what you were asked prepare an annual report & nbsp; & mdash; that's one thing.

The team never falls from the sky. It is made up of dedicated colleagues. & mdash; Sergey Shoigu

And & nbsp; another, when you & nbsp; nor & nbsp; about what you & nbsp; ask & nbsp; and & nbsp; go, another example, in & nbsp; mountains, as in mountain search and rescue teams, to look for climbers who got into & nbsp; trouble. Rescuers who work in the & nbsp; mountains … Well, & nbsp; for & nbsp; how much money can you collect such a team? 360 masters of sports worked for us in the & nbsp; Caucasus, in the mountains, in the & nbsp; rescue teams! Can you imagine what level of professionalism, courage and & nbsp; dedication they should have to their business?

The level of their & nbsp; training should always be higher than that of & nbsp; those who prepare, train for a year, and & nbsp; then go to the & nbsp; ascent. And & nbsp; after all, this is the everyday state of rescuers. They must be ready at any time. Therefore, you & nbsp; know, the team never falls out of the & nbsp; sky. It is created from & nbsp; dedicated colleagues.

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& mdash; & nbsp; A & nbsp; does the & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; have a universal wish, like & nbsp; sailors: “ seven feet under the keel '', which could & nbsp; to & nbsp; the holiday on the 27th to address colleagues?

& mdash; & nbsp; In general, our rescuers have a lot of holidays in & nbsp; year. & Nbsp; they have two Civil Defense Days & nbsp; & mdash; one of ours and & nbsp; one international. There is the Day of Fire Protection, there is the Day of Mine Rescuers. There is the Day of the Ministry of Emergency Situations, which is celebrated by everyone, and & nbsp; i & nbsp; in & nbsp; including. Although for almost 10 & nbsp; years I & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; have not been working in & nbsp; these structures, but & nbsp; anyway, this does & nbsp; cover those & nbsp; 20 & nbsp; years, which I devoted to this wonderful business. & Nbsp; me and & nbsp; today there are a lot of friends, colleagues, with whom we & nbsp; did a lot of useful and & nbsp; important things for our country. And & nbsp; I & nbsp; would like & nbsp; all of them & nbsp; they will understand me well, so that the rescue service is always ready for & nbsp; everything, but & nbsp; is not & nbsp; needed!

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